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Re Malin. This person is a chronic uploader of junk. See Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Uploads by Matlin/temp. He does not have a user page on the Commons and I don't know how to "communicate" with him in Polish. He has been blocked a couple of times for this, but my recent nominations from December 14 show that since his recent block expired nothing has changed. These are a tiny, tiny portion of his junky uploads, since the Commons as a high tolerance for junk. As someone said regarding his junk: "Drinking from the Flickr firehose gives us a lot of COM:FREE content, but I'm not seeing COM:SCOPE". If you go through the "uncategorized" dates, those that still have thousands remaining without categories contain large numbers of Matlin's uploads (as well a those of some other uploaders with the same tendencies). It's quite depressing and I'm sick of it and getting sick of junk. I just like looking at photographs of different places. (I hear it is cold in Seattle.) Krok6kola (talk) 18:56, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

• You suggested that I speak to User:Matlin. (A.Savin blocked them for one month on January 5, 2022.) How do you speak to some in Polish? I've managed to add some images to articles in the Polish Wikipedia but that is about it. Matlin can only be contacted through email, according to his Polish page. Krok6kola (talk) 23:20, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

  @Krok6kola: If there is no common language, then my best suggestion is Google Translate (then copy-paste). Mention, of course, that you are using machine translation. I'd send email with both the English and the machine translation. pl:Wikiskryba:Matlin does say he knows "basic" English and (if it's useful to you) a bit more German. - Jmabel ! talk 23:24, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

  I think he/she (probably a he) is addicted, as we all are here. The sad part is just before he was blocked he/she was starting to actually add some categories. I don't think language is the way to go with this person. Krok6kola (talk) 23:40, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Pottery Making at New Mexico Museum of Art.jpg

The photographs did rise and fall together, as you predicted! Krok6kola (talk) 21:27, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

How we will see unregistered users

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Thank you. /Johan (WMF)

18:11, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Your most memorable shot of 2021

Happy New Year! As always at the beginning of the new year, I'm inviting you to share your most memorable shot of the past year. Which of your photos stood out in 2021? Which image created special memories that you'd like to share with others? On behalf of the Commons Photographers User Group I wish you, your family, and your friends all the best for 2022. Warmly, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 03:25, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Question

Hi Jmabel. You had helped me a while back (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Carrie-Hope-Fletcher.jpg#File%3ACarrie-Hope-Fletcher.jpg) and I wasn't sure where to ask this question, so I hope you don't mind me asking you. I've developed a general interest in intellectual property the last couple years, and I recently took some coursework on copyright. I'm the odd sort of person who finds copyright a bit fun, I suppose, and I was wondering to what extent there is a need for people semi-knowledgeable in that area on this site. Assuming so, do you have any recommendations on how to get started, both in learning my way around and in terms of what needs doing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TrueNeutral879 (talk • contribs) 14:32, 12 January 2022‎ (UTC)

• @TrueNeutral879: I would suggest you start checking in regularly at Commons:Village pump/Copyright. That's the central point for copyright-related discussion. (Also, please sign your posts). - Jmabel ! talk 15:59, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the pointers! I'll take a look. TrueNeutral879 (talk) 16:27, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Wikimedia Sound Logo project

Wikimedia Sound Logo project
The Wikimedia Sound Logo project Hello, the Wikimedia sound logo project is in an early development phase -- this stage is for asking all kinds of questions, developing and fielding ideas, finding themes and shaping the direction of the project. Here is a link to the meta page for the project: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Sound_Logo Your input is welcome. Thank you.

VGrigas (WMF) (talk) 00:23, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Governors Island Ferry Dock 05 (9440765547)

I apologize. I thought New York Water Taxi was technically considered a ferry. ----DanTD (talk) 16:06, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

• @DanTD: If it is, then feel free to add that. (I wouldn't call a tour boat a ferry, but whatever.) But certainly don't remove the category that indicates that it shows a ferry (rather than an empty terminal). Certainly what the picture shows is more important than what sort of boat I was on when I took it, and shouldn't be dropped. - Jmabel ! talk 16:08, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

forth --> fourth

...wouldn't that have been a really cool topic for a geek? ;-) Pittigrilli (talk) 17:55, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Category:Record_producers

Record producers has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

Geo Swan (talk) 03:30, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

File:Thornewood - formal garden detail 01.jpg

File:Thornewood - formal garden detail 01.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

75.146.52.142 18:05, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

File:Thornewood 04.jpg

File:Thornewood 04.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

75.146.52.142 18:07, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

File:Thornewood 05.jpg

File:Thornewood 05.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

75.146.52.142 18:30, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Category:1940s architecture in New York

1940s architecture in New York has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

--R'n'B (talk) 16:38, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@R'n'B and R'n'B: the discussion link leads nowhere. - Jmabel ! talk 16:39, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

You are too fast. ;-) It's live now. --R'n'B (talk) 16:42, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

link wikidata commons

Hello

I Have the same problem again; link János Piry Cirjék (Q1236709) wikidata to János Piry Cirjék commons. I don't know where I go wrong. I have asked "Wikidata:Project chat" about it.

Regards

--Io Herodotus (talk) 13:43, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

• @Io Herodotus: again, that Wikidata item is not linked to Commons. Did you look at https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2966518&diff=1594620512&oldid=1504990041, which I linked in our discussion on the Village pump? You need to make an analogous edit to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1236709. - Jmabel ! talk 14:53, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

I understand now, it has to be added on 2 different places. Thank you. --Io Herodotus (talk) 15:26, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your help!

	Very Helpful Award
	Appreciate it :) FlantasyFlan (talk) 17:08, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Seattle Municipal Archives

Note to self: "new" search for a given item is

http://archives.seattle.gov/digital-collections/index.php/Search/objects/search/num%253Aitem numberAND+ca_objects.type_id%253A23

e.g. http://archives.seattle.gov/digital-collections/index.php/Search/objects/search/num%253A77810+AND+ca_objects.type_id%253A23

Jmabel ! talk 22:55, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Category:Nursing students by country

Hi! I create this category. Please re-categorising to subcategories by country. --Микола Василечко (talk) 15:53, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Irene Mawer.jpg

Hello Jmabel! Since you had mentioned that you were open to reconsideration, I wanted to bring your attention to my comment. Regards. — The Most Comfortable Chair 04:28, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Save the date: Commons Photographers meeting next week

Dear member of the Commons Photographers User Group,

Please save the date: on Saturday, June 19th, our next virtual Zoom meeting is going to take place. As you know, one goal of these meetings is to share knowledge about different types of photography. This time, we've lined up the following presentations:

• Photography in Nigeria
• Photographing vehicles
• I started printing my images – here’s what I've learned so far…

If you'd like to participate in this event, please consider signing up on this page. Also, if you'd like to present at one of the next meetings, please send me a quick note. Sharing your experiences and learnings with others can make a huge difference!

I wish you, your family, and your friends all the best! Hope to see you on the 19th.

Warmly, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 03:13, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Modification of Template:PD-VenezuelaGov

Hello, I want to talk to you about the modification of the template Template:PD-VenezuelaGov that mentions the public domain license for Venezuela.

Recently in 2012, the government decreed a law that releases to the public domain all the graphic material that is made by any of the government institutions.

The law in question is the Ley Orgánica del Trabajo, los Trabajadores y las Trabajadoras (Labor Law in English), decreed in May 7, 2012. In which article no. 325 decrees (in Spanish):

La producción intelectual generada bajo relación de trabajo en el sector público, o financiada a través de fondos públicos que origine derechos de propiedad intelectual, se considerará del dominio público, manteniéndose los derechos al reconocimiento público del autor o autora.

Translated into English would be:

The intellectual production generated under an employment relationship in the public sector, or financed through public funds that originates intellectual property rights, will be considered to be in the public domain, maintaining the rights to public recognition of the author.

Can be modify this template to add this law?

-- Wguayana (talk) 20:01, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

• @Wguayana: I have no problem with that happening; the template already pretty crowded, though, and rewording it to add this major case may be complicated.
• Also, I think that very literal translation is a bit clumsy. Still, I guess we need to stay more-or-less literal, rather than just explain the concept. What about a slight rewording to:

Intellectual product generated under an employment relationship in the public sector—or financed through public funds—that generates intellectual property rights, will be considered to be in the public domain, while maintaining the authors' rights to public recognition.

• Do you want to edit the template, or are you asking me to edit it? Have you pinged the people who have worked on that template in the past? Jmabel ! talk 20:13, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

  @Jmabel Very good, it seems fair to me.

  I am asking you to edit it as it can only be changed by administrators. I contacted other administrators but so far no one had replied. Wguayana (talk) 21:23, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

  • @Wguayana: I've updated the English and the Spanish; I don't have the confidence to do the German. - Jmabel ! talk 21:34, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

    Thanks!

    -- Wguayana (talk) 21:59, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Sound Logo

Hello,

I am messaging you because a contest for a sound logo for Wikimedia is being developed and your opinion as a Wikimedia Commons admin is appreciated. My team would like to know if it is possible for the top finalist sound logos in the contest to have attribution temporarily hidden from public view until all the votes are final? The idea is to let the public judge the sound logo contestants based on the merit of the logo, not the person or people who made it. Again, any feedback is appreciated.

Thank you,

VGrigas (WMF) (talk) 17:45, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

1. @VGrigas (WMF): I don't think this is more for admins to decide than anyone else. Issue should be brought to the Village Pump.
2. I'm going to make a strong guess that you'll need the explicit permission of each individual who has submitted the sound logo before you do this with their submission. Otherwise, you are violating their license. - Jmabel ! talk 17:50, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

This Sunday!

Hi, this is just a quick reminder: the next virtual meeting of our user group is scheduled for Sunday, June 19, 16:00 UTC. Topics are: “Photography in Nigeria”, “Photographing Vehicles”, “Wildlife photography and citizen science”, and “I started printing my images – here’s what I've learned so far…”. I'm thrilled about this great agenda and I'm looking forward to connecting with you again. Stay safe and all the best, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 03:08, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Category:Summer_Solstice_Parade_and_Pageant

Summer Solstice Parade and Pageant has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

A1Cafel (talk) 08:24, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletion

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry. If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Affected:

• File:Fremont, Seattle - dinosaur topiary.jpg

Yours sincerely, Elisfkc (talk) 20:40, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

The Library

Dear Jmabel, One of your photos has been used in the book The Library, A Fragile History (with due acknowledgements), see The Signpost. --- Vysotsky (talk) 13:17, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Quick update on behalf of the Commons Photographers User Group

Dear member of the Commons Photographers User Group,

I hope you're well and enjoy taking photos for Wikimedia Commons. Here are a couple of quick updates on behalf of our group:

• Our next virtual meeting will take place on Saturday, August 27. At this point we have two presentations lined up:

• Suitable! Unsuitable! How to choose photos for a Wikipedia for children, “Klexikon” (Ziko)
• The aperture and its (less known) effects (XRay)

You can sign up for the event on this page: Virtual Meeting on August 27, 2022. – Given that we can accommodate more speakers, I'll invite you to get in touch with me in case you'd like to present on the 27th. You can reach me any time on my talk page or by sending a quick email.

• Also, we now have a page for local events organized by members of our user group: Local events 2022. Please check it out and consider organizing an event yourself!
• And finally, we're planning on offering a Post-processing Workshop on October 8. Please save the date; an events page with more information will go up later.

Thanks for being a member of our group and for sharing your works under a free license. Have fun taking pictures!

All the best, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 15:23, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Out of scope posts by newbies on Helpdesk

Hi, I think it is not necessary to answer to out of scope posts by newbies on Helpdesk. I deleted or reverted all edits by this user, and warned them about the scope of Commons. Thanks, Yann (talk) 17:15, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

@Yann: That's fine. Since she was claiming to be an actress, I thought there might be a photo of her that was somehow involved. - Jmabel ! talk 17:17, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Admin template

Hi, You should a {{User admin}} in your userpage. Regards, Yann (talk) 15:35, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

• @Yann: Thanks, done. - Jmabel ! talk 16:41, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Sockpuppet

You might want to know that the account that uploaded this copyvio image is a sockpuppet on English Wikipedia. Bri (talk) 14:08, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

You're invited to provide input…

Dear fellow member of the Commons Photographers User Group,

At our last meeting end of August, we talked about getting in touch with the Wikimedia Foundation and offering our help for improving Wikimedia Commons. Today, I invite you to provide your input on a draft open letter to the Foundation. Over the course of the next ten days, we'll further improve the text together, before inviting people to sign it. If you're interested in providing input, please engage in the discussion on the talk page of the draft.

In the meanwhile, I hope you're well and have a great time taking photos! All the best, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 08:42, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

From User:STTLynch

en:User talk:Jmabel The Leon Lynch image uploaded simply needs editing in the copyright data and photo caption. According to the United Steelworkers representative, the copyright belongs to: United Steelworkers archive. There should not be an individual photographer listed. Also, the Steelworkers state the image was taken circa 1990 not 1996. Any credit for the image should be courtesy of the United Steelworkers archive.

Not sure what happened to the copy of the image that Tony Montana of the USW said he uploaded. I never saw it in the Wikimedia Commons database. Just glad the source details behind the image I shared, which is the same image Tony said he shared, will be corrected. Thank you. [unsigned]

1. @STTLynch: You can edit it accordingly exactly as easily as I can.
2. As far as I can see, we still don't have a clear permission for the image from the copyright holder. I don't have access to VRT tickets. As I said, if you believe there is already a ticket on this, bring that matter to Commons:Volunteer Response Team/Noticeboard. If there is no ticket, then the copyright holder needs to go through the process described at COM:VRT. - Jmabel ! talk 14:17, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Online workshop this weekend

Dear Commons Photographers User Group member,

This coming Saturday, October 8, we'll host an online post processing workshop. On behalf of our events coordinator Shreya I invite you to sign up for the event using this Google form.

I hope you're well. All the best, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 19:50, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Maybe revdel-worthy?

You reverted Special:Diff/698124563 and Special:Diff/698124336. I wonder if it might be worth hiding the edit summaries as purely disruptive material, since they're in no way germane to the edits and the second one is at least a little bit transphobic. --bjh21 (talk) 13:04, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

• @Bjh21: Good idea, but it looks like someone beat me to it. - Jmabel ! talk 14:17, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Child pornography

Hello.

I'm concerned that this image at commons is child pornography. Not only because the minor's glute is very visible, but the Flickr account from which the image was uploaded - and that I will not make a link to (it can be accessed from the photo's description) - is filled with nude photos of minors and inappropriate comments below the images. Governor Sheng (talk) 02:53, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

• Linking file page: File:The twins laugh at something they are watching at our campsite (50094290861).jpg. - Jmabel ! talk 14:25, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
• @Governor Sheng: you appear to have nominated this for deletion. I have no idea why you have messaged me on my talk page. If you feel this is an admin issue, please bring it to Commons:Administrators' noticeboard. - Jmabel ! talk 14:29, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
• For what it's worth, I don't think the image is pornographic, and I'm neutral about whether it should be kept on Commons. - Jmabel ! talk 14:30, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Taken on template

Thank you for bringing to my attention that my bot (BadzilBot was doing unnecessary edits. As mentioned on the Commons pump this wasn't intended and will not continue in the future. It would have been nice to have been made aware directly of this issue with a message on my talk page or a ping on the Commons pump thread. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 13:31, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

• @Cryptic-waveform: Sorry. Glad to hear this wasn't intentional. - Jmabel ! talk 15:40, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from the CPUG Board

Dear user group member,

I'm writing you to today on behalf of the board of the Commons Photographers User Group. The past year has been a busy one for us. In 2022, we've had more activities than ever before in the history of our group and you'll find an overview on our group's page.

With that being said, 2022 was also a year of learning for the current board members. Most of us hadn't been involved in running the Photographers User Group and we spent quite some time on getting used to our new roles. We all feel it was a steep learning curve.

That's why, at our last board meeting, we decided to ask our members whether they'd be ok with us serving for another year. Extending our board duties to the end of 2023 would allow us to continue the work we've started this year, and to benefit from the knowledge we've built over the past twelve months.

However, in the end, it's up to you and the other members of our group to decide whether such an extension of our board term should be granted. I invite you to voice your opinion on this page:

Commons:Commons Photographers User Group/Board Elections 2022

We'll gather feedback until December 27, and we'll keep you in the loop about the outcomes of this process.

Thanks so much for your ongoing support of our group. I wish you, your family, and your friends all the best.

--Ailura (talk) 12:32, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Sorry

…about this. I should have been more useful in this discussion. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 04:25, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Apology accepted.

As you can imagine, it did not help me in keeping track of the issues at hand. Neither of you was pointing to a technical issue, you were both arguing vexillology and throwing insults at each other. I figured I was keeping matters on track by trying to bring it back to the vexillology. But as an admin, I probably should have been thinking ahead to the tech side of what the move would mean. If I've screwed up, then I've screwed up, and there is nothing in particular I can do about it now. - Jmabel ! talk 04:30, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

For what’s worth, I think you’re by far hands down one of the very best admins in Commons. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 07:31, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. I try. - Jmabel ! talk 16:13, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

• I agree with Tuvalkin. "I think you’re by far hands down one of the very best admins in Commons." You are. Krok6kola (talk) 20:51, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Infoboxes

If you love to do infoboxes, Category:Reginald Barlow needs one too. Krok6kola (talk) 17:34, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

• I don't "love" to do them, but I do seem to be one of the people on Commons who gets how to do Wikidata. - Jmabel ! talk 19:25, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
  • Here's another then: Category:Billy Campbell (baseball). I would do them if I knew how and understood the point of doing them. Krok6kola (talk) 19:43, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

    The big pieces are

    1. Add the Commons page to the relevant Wikidata item.
    2. Flesh out the Wikidata item, if needed.
    3. Add {{Wikidata Infobox}} to the Commons page.

    Jmabel ! talk 20:10, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Most memorable shot 2022 / Wikimania 2023

Dear member of the Commons Photographers User Group,

I wish you a Happy New Year! As it has been our tradition at the beginning of the new year for a while, we're sharing our most memorable shots of the past year with each other. I invite you to share a picture that is particular meaningful to you and to describe why that's the case. Also, as Wikimania 2023 will be here before we know it (August 16 to 19), please consider adding your thoughts on our planning page, where we gather ideas for how we can make Commons photography more visible than in the years before.

All the best to you, your family, and friends! --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 21:01, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		Sapiens et iustus es. 188.123.231.39 06:00, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Your photo used with credit

@Jmabel, This photo File:Cement plant 02.jpg with credit to you appeared today on All In with Chris Hayes in reference to a Supreme Court case and hearing, which I think was also today. -- Ooligan (talk) 07:56, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

@Ooligan: Thanks for letting me know! - Jmabel ! talk 16:21, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

You are welcome. Congratulations, -- Ooligan (talk) 16:49, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Moving forward

Is it better to create CFDs for each empty category like Trivialist did at Commons:Categories_for_discussion/2023/01#Category:SCOOB!_characters or focus on reverting the edits first so that the discussions aren't pointless? Both options are terrible because I can at best half-heartedly say they should be deleted but I feel foolish saying "someone else gutted this and it's now empty but believe me, if we had what I think we had here, it would be a bad category." Maybe I can get a bot to make a list of what pages were in those categories first and then post that so the discussions aren't basically rigged from the start. It's a lot of work to have an honest debate even if I think they are all ridiculous. Ricky81682 (talk) 05:17, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

• @Ricky81682: obviously the categories should not have been emptied before some sort of consensus was reached. This is just not appropriate. Have you already brought that up with them? At least their edit summaries tend to be pretty clear, so you could probably go more-or-less sanely through their user contributions and find the relevant edits, but it looks like they are doing this over and over with categories they don't like. - Jmabel ! talk 07:48, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
• I see this is already being discussed on Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems, so why ask on my talk page? - Jmabel ! talk 07:50, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

  I don't know why actually lol. You are right, I'll bring it up with Trivialist myself. Ricky81682 (talk) 10:29, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

  • It looks like he's now undone a lot of this, maybe all. - Jmabel ! talk 17:59, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

A question

Do you have an opinion on the Universal Code of Conduct and its revision. If so, do you want to share it? Krok6kola (talk) 17:15, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

• @Krok6kola: so far, what I've seen is reasonable. I'm not at all sure it is necessary, but it's probably inevitable. - Jmabel ! talk 17:19, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Agree with the inevitable part. Krok6kola (talk) 17:24, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

• @Krok6kola: I haven't yet read the new enforcement guidelines, will do that today. - Jmabel ! talk 17:28, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

There has been a distinct show of courtesy on the part of some editors as a result of this Universal Code. So I am in favor. I can't get into the weeds of any changes. (My ADD and advanced years) Krok6kola (talk) 19:51, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletion

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry. If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Affected:

• File:Bucharest - Dec 2014 - B-dul Regina Elisabeta 02.jpg

Yours sincerely, Abzeronow (talk) 16:05, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

• I would never have guessed that was an FoP violation, but nothing to do if it is. - Jmabel ! talk 16:09, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
  • A user had tagged it with Category:Palatul Creditului Industrial and it had looked like it had matched. Abzeronow (talk) 16:19, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
    • @Abzeronow: It looks correctly identified. I hadn't considered that an inter-war building might still be under copyright. - Jmabel ! talk 16:29, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Livioandronico2013

Hi,I haven't had any arguments with anyone,I get insulted,they say my photos are crap,I don't intend to participate in QI OR FP but just put up photos but I get blocked for facts from 10 years ago. Thanks for your attention and sorry for the trouble. 151.46.218.2 00:29, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

• FWIW, I have never had any of my own photos selected for FP. The people who vote there have a very specific aesthetic, which for the most part I don't share. I personally find it not worth fighting over.
• However, if you are interested in having an account restored here, I suggest you resist the urge to post from an IP address while blocked. Stick to making requests for an unblock on your own talk page. Anything else is likely to be considered block evasion. - Jmabel ! talk 00:32, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

  They don't even consider unblocking me, and anyway I didn't insist on posting pictures, I put up undoubtedly better pictures but since I am blocked then they say I insist. It's a dog biting its own tail. Anyway sincerely thank you for your interest. It was kind. 151.46.218.2 00:39, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

• You are kind! Krok6kola (talk) 01:38, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Very sorry

I'm sorry to bother again but now he did this [1]--109.52.98.243 21:28, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

• I hope you understand that by posting to my user page, you are violating your block, which makes it pretty much impossible for me to take you side in this. You obviously are not good at leaving well enough alone. Right now, I'm inclined to stay out of this. If you post to my page again, including if you respond to this, I'll probably have to support the ban. Just stop. - Jmabel ! talk 00:31, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Need some help?

@Jmabel Hello. How can i help here? This category needs to be emptied so it can be deleted as per your discussion, I could empty it unless you want to do it. - Category:Historic Columbia River Gorge National Scenic Area Photos I found another similar one by the same sock. Category:Historic Photos Forest Service Pacific Northwest Region Thanks, -- Ooligan (talk) 18:36, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

• @Ooligan: I'll take on the Gorge one. If you want to take on the Forest Service one, great. Just a matter of working out what needs to be recategorized how, then getting rid of the empty category. I haven't started yet, so I don't know how much of an undertaking it will be. That last one is big, though: it might take a lot of work. I think it may be more a question of how can I help you on that monster? - Jmabel ! talk 18:40, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

  @Jmabel Should I open a discussion on this Category:Historic Photos Forest Service Pacific Northwest Region before I take action or do I reference your and Pi's discussion on that similar category. I just want to do the process properly. I can ask for your help if I need it, but you always seem to have something you are working on. I enjoy these old files- I wish that some originating institutions would let us (The Commons) have the highest quality versions of these images that are reserve for paying customers. -- Ooligan (talk) 19:15, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

  • @Ooligan: I don't think we need a further discussion on this, it's pretty clear that a now-banned user left a mess which ought to be cleaned up. Judging by what I've seen in the last half-hour or so, it's quite a mess: so far all but one file I've looked at was terribly categorized (as in: missing any relevant categories, and most of them containing irrelevant categories, like a mountain that was 50 miles away and not in the picture). Not sure how much time I'll put into this right now: I was in the middle of working my way through thousands of genuinely good, high-resolution images from Seattle Public Library. - Jmabel ! talk 19:20, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
  • @Ooligan: Example of how bad: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:1790_Paulina_Peak_Lookout_Tower,_Deschutes_NF,_OR_8-1960_(22140420003).jpg&diff=735128683&oldid=735024309. Maybe we should turn those bad "Historic" categories into maintenance categories, and indicate that all the photos in them need a cat check. What do you think? - Jmabel ! talk 19:32, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

    Sounds good. Others may help. When empty, these maintenance categories will be deleted? -- Ooligan (talk) 20:07, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

    • @Ooligan: Yes. - Jmabel ! talk 20:07, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

For deleting my page. Thanks!

Waylon111 (talk) 18:25, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Curation...

It needs an admin to change/implement it, but this change to {{Internet Archive Link}} is overdue. Template:Internet Archive link/sandbox. The next problem is how to implement a review process. The best guide I have is the existing License review process, but I am not sure how you prevent the user that uploaded the file self-signing that they verified it.

The intention with this change is that eventually all compatible files are in the /verified cat. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:53, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

• @ShakespeareFan00: Better to make this sort of request at Commons:Administrators' noticeboard than to hit me up. I don't really know enough about this template to make a judgement call, someone else will.
• But a couple of comments: 1) the documentation will need to be updated as well. 2) I presume that the intent with "reviewed" is specific to when this is used to cite a source (since there can be other reasons to link to an archived file, e.g. for a citation). We don't want to end up categorizing some file as having a licensing problem because its description cites a copyrighted file on the Internet Archive. - Jmabel ! talk 21:04, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

  Hmm... That's a reasonable considerationShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:17, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Seed catalogs..

Any chance you could partition Category:Henry G. Gilbert Nursery and Seed Trade Catalog Collection by year?

Also if you find post 1928 editions of catalogs with notices, you know what to do, already :)

It would be nice to get this cleaned up quickly. :) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 18:54, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

• @ShakespeareFan00: any particular reason you are asking me rather than someone who has worked on that category? I've got a lot of other projects I'm working on. I guess I'm willing to do this if there's some reason I'd be better than a random person... - Jmabel ! talk 19:06, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

  I asked you because you'd done splits of categories before:) If you know of better people, please kindly point them in my direction... ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:17, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

  • @ShakespeareFan00: This particular one is immense (over 20,000 files) and doesn't look easy (no obvious consistent pattern to the filenames that indicates the dates). I suspect someone will have to spend hours, if not days, on this, and it isn't in an area I'm particularly interested in. - Jmabel ! talk 19:46, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

    I was using a regexp on a field in the book template, not the filename ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:57, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

    • Makes sense but, again: why would this be any easier for me to follow through than for people who have been working in that category? I don't bring any special expertise, and nothing here requires an admin. Or am I missing something? - Jmabel ! talk 20:00, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

      No worries, I already got you were busy right now. I was giving a technicial explanation of how i was going to proceed when I had time. Generally, I try to find an admin to do big partitions because they have access to bot flags, a normal user doesn't (as well as higher level API access to do mass actions more quickly.). It doesn't need an admin as such, it just gets done more quickly with tools admins can use, but normal users can't. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:10, 28 February 2023 (UTC)